{"id":1061,"date":"2014-07-26T00:53:15","date_gmt":"2014-07-26T00:53:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lawschoollies.com\/?p=1061"},"modified":"2014-07-30T12:50:55","modified_gmt":"2014-07-30T12:50:55","slug":"interview-21-coming-soon","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lawschoollies.com\/?p=1061","title":{"rendered":"Interview #21: The one where I was interviewed because they didn&#8217;t know how to open my resume"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So a cold spam resume sent to an Oil and Gas boutique resulted in an email telling me to show up for an interview. I arrive at a nice glass building and park in the connected garage. As a random side note, the garage had rather ridiculous infestation of spiders along the I-beams of the ceiling making me shirk away from every surface and slouch slightly with a vigilant eye upwards. But, inside the building it was quite lovely, and there was a pretty veranda with tables and chairs overlooking a little brook running behind the building that had a whole bunch of turtles in it!<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, back on topic&#8230; I get to the office and it was a nice lobby, although some rather cheap flooring, but it was quite large. I&#8217;m told to wait and after about 10 minutes one of the soon-to-be interviewers comes out and asks if I brought a copy of my resume with me because apparently they can&#8217;t find where they put it. (apparently not a tech savvy office if they can&#8217;t search thru email&#8230;) So I hand them a copy and I&#8217;m ushered into the named partners office. Imagine a living room from 1975 done up with wood paneling and a lot of leather.<\/p>\n<p>The interviewers for this 20+ attorney firm consist of the named partner, and 2 associates who are very likely\u00a0younger than I am. We start talking about O&amp;G in general and what my interest is in it, I answer I am interested in general business law and O&amp;G is a subset I&#8217;d be interested in pursuing considering.. well its Texas (lots of O&amp;G firms). Now, just to clarify, I come from a place where there basically was no oil or gas activity at all, although\u00a0rather recently there is a great deal. There were no classes in law school because it was the wrong part of the country to have such things. So most of my answers to the O&amp;G info are based on studying for the Texas bar exam.<\/p>\n<p>This shouldn&#8217;t be a huge surprise, because this firm had people who had multiple bars in places all over the country, and well, its pretty obvious from my resume&#8230; which they must have read before I got here&#8230; right? So the general Q&amp;A goes on for awhile and finally I ask (because if you recall&#8230; this was a cold resume with no job posting) &#8220;what are you looking for, for this position?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The named partner speaks up and says &#8220;7-10 years experience doing title examination opinions\u00a0in all the places you have bar licenses in.&#8221; Silence descends upon the room. WTF. He (theoretically) had looked at a copy of my resume which had <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">zero<\/span>\u00a0O&amp;G on it, and pretty close to <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">zero<\/span>\u00a0title work on it, and oh let&#8217;s not forget I only graduated 4 years ago&#8230; so&#8230; the whole experience part was a bit of a wash. How was I supposed to respond to that? So after a few seconds of silence I finally just answered &#8220;Well, at least I have the bar licenses part.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>The interviewers seem to start winding down and I get asked the great &#8220;do you have any questions for us?&#8221; The firm had listed on their website that in addition to O&amp;G they also did IP &#8211; specifically copyright, trademark, patents, and trade secret work; oh yeah, and Wills, trusts, estate planning, and probate. So, thinking I could leverage my other skills in place of the apparent absence of O&amp;G work I speak up. &#8220;I saw on your website that you do IP work&#8230;&#8221; that was all I got out.<\/p>\n<p>The named partner (possibly a bit too emphatically) spoke up &#8220;That&#8217;s a LIE.&#8221; Once again&#8230; silence in the room. Was he saying I was lying? Or the website? I was stuck just sort of staring &#8211; waiting for more, and finally he decided to extrapolate. &#8220;We don&#8217;t do any of that, I think in the past 20 years we&#8217;ve done it twice for a client.&#8221; So, no&#8230; I can&#8217;t leverage any other specialties. Apparently the person who made the website never actually consulted with the named partner.The firm ONLY did one thing. O&amp;G title opinions. The other dozen &#8216;practice areas&#8217; listed were space fillers and they didn&#8217;t actually do any of them. (ethics of legal advertising aside, how the hell is someone from outside the firm supposed to know that from looking at their crappy website?)<\/p>\n<p>Suddenly it fell into place. The named partner was computer illiterate. He didn&#8217;t look at my resume because it was a PDF attachment&#8230; he didn&#8217;t download it or open it. He read the brief introductory blurb of my email and made a snap determination on the 3-5 sentences therein. He had no input on his website or interest therein&#8230; yeah&#8230; I suddenly realized that the first time anyone in that room had seen my resume was as I was sitting down for the interview. There was literally no chance of me getting this job because Mr. Techno-illiterate partner had no idea what my background was because he didn&#8217;t read my resume or cover letter, he just saw from the email that I had bar licenses in the right states and he was hoping I had the background he was looking for.<\/p>\n<p>So the interview basically hit a wall and wound down pretty quickly thereafter. I tried to make some small talk surrounding a specific hobby listed all over his bio, but it went nowhere fast. The only bright spot was when I was asked how soon I could start if they were interested. I checked my watch, looked up and said\u00a0&#8220;is now too soon?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I was ushered back out of the office and felt vaguely confused by the whole ordeal. It was a friendly enough interview minus the whole &#8220;7-10 years of experience in a field I don&#8217;t have&#8221;. Maybe they were looking to train someone&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Yeah.. the answer was no. The email showed up an hour later. I contacted one of the interviewers with the standard &#8220;thank you, can you give me some feedback&#8221; notes. They basically said I needed to have shown more interest in the field by having joined about a half dozen different professional organizations in O&amp;G to show commitment to the field. (mind you a field I have been incapable of practicing based on geography until the last 30 days). So, pay a bunch of membership fees to organizations that were more local than national, for a sub-specialty I couldn&#8217;t possibly have been connected with up until now.<\/p>\n<p>Super. Great advice. I literally couldn&#8217;t be more happy with your help. Next time open the damned resume before you setup an interview.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So a cold spam resume sent to an Oil and Gas boutique resulted in an email telling me to show up for an interview. I arrive at a nice glass building and park in the connected garage. 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